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Post  D4L on Sat May 23, 2009 9:35 pm

You've got to be kidding me, plz no double races!

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Post  D4L on Sat May 23, 2009 9:36 pm

Oh, i meant to reply >< wasn't supposed to press new topic but i don't use forums a lot.

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Post  D4L on Sat May 23, 2009 9:46 pm

Examine Case 1:
D4L hates PvP, he trains and trains but never gets it right. So he just becomes lazy and learns TvP. He hasn't really leaned Protoss well and just gives up. Therefore, he isn't as good at Starcraft.

Of course, Case 1 isn't as bad as Case 2.
Examine Case 2:
D4L has chosen PvZ,ZvT,PvP. Sam has chosen ZvT, TvP, ZvZ. When they are set against each other, D4L will use P but Sam will use T. Therefore, D4L will use Z and Sam will have to use Z. The circle continues.

Examine Case 3:
D4L has chosen PvZ, ZvT, TvP. Sam has chosen PvZ,ZvT,TvP. Circle logic again, except, with all three of the match-ups. But I doubt anyone will go to such extremities.

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Re: Omg plz no double

Post  Lukaluka on Sat May 23, 2009 9:59 pm

wow......that's the point...
I've think about it...maybe they can just toss a coin and decide which to use......
And the rule says choose your race freely, you don't have to decide which race to use right here. You'll have to decide which race to use even things are like what you said.
BTW...I'm random
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Post  Harmony on Sat May 23, 2009 11:55 pm

??? it's common knowledge that both players play random if there's a conflict

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Post  D4L on Sun May 24, 2009 1:35 pm

Examine Case 4:
D4L picks PvZ,ZvT,PvP. Sam has chosen PvZ,ZvT,TvP. Now, the circle comes so they pick Random. However, D4L has a 1/3 chance of getting a matchup he likes. And that lowers even still because the randomizer randoms mirror matchups even less. Obviously, i would doubt he knows Z very well so only with considerable luck, he'd achieve PvZ. Sam on the other hand, has had experience with all races, so is comfortable with all matchups, at least more comfortable than D4L is. The question is, how is this fair?

Examine Case 5:
D4L picks random. Sam has three matchups (PvZ,ZvT,PvP). If random is allowed as an option, how will this be fair to Sam, he has a 1 in 3 chance that this can backfire on him. What build is he going to use? Therefore, why bother having specific matchups in the first place?

I don't mind having random as an option, nor do i mind picking matchups, but if they're both in use together, it really just doesn't work.

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Post  Harmony on Sun May 24, 2009 5:48 pm

??? If there's a conflict BOTH players play random. It doesn't matter if the race they get is a conflict. Random is fair.

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Post  Harmony on Sun May 24, 2009 5:50 pm

^^ to add on. If one player is able to play 3 races and the other one can only play 1 race, then the first player needs to devote 3x more time into practicing... fair? I think so

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Post  Admin-Sept. on Sun May 24, 2009 8:50 pm

first of all i agree with harmony
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Post  Admin-Sept. on Sun May 24, 2009 8:51 pm

we will figure something out if there is really a conflict
i believe that all players are nice enough to each other.
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Post  Harmony on Tue May 26, 2009 10:17 pm

=P we always argue

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Post  Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ on Tue May 26, 2009 10:23 pm

Because you always seem to attempt to deny logic.
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Post  Harmony on Tue May 26, 2009 10:31 pm

It DOES take more skill to play 9 matchups instead of 3

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Post  Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ on Wed May 27, 2009 3:48 pm

So then why would anyone do it?
Because the knowledge of knowing what the enemy is doing and their uttermost confusion is worth the difficulty of learning the matchups and besides, no-one here has enough skill to make the most of the other person's randomness and lack of practise at one specific race (as none of us play 12/7). Of course, i'm only saying that but there may be a few pros here.
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Post  Admin-Sept. on Wed May 27, 2009 4:00 pm

conflicts happen, then we decide.
no time for such long wordy arguments in english man
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Post  Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ on Wed May 27, 2009 4:36 pm

Lol, we're just bringing some life into this forum Smile
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Post  Admin-Sept. on Wed May 27, 2009 4:37 pm

Great spirit keep it up.
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Post  Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ on Wed May 27, 2009 4:38 pm

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Post  Admin-Sept. on Wed May 27, 2009 4:39 pm

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Post  Harmony on Wed May 27, 2009 5:36 pm

Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ wrote:So then why would anyone do it?
Because the knowledge of knowing what the enemy is doing and their uttermost confusion is worth the difficulty of learning the matchups and besides, no-one here has enough skill to make the most of the other person's randomness and lack of practise at one specific race (as none of us play 12/7). Of course, i'm only saying that but there may be a few pros here.

so you're trying to give even ground between someone who practices more and someone who practices less?

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Post  Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ on Wed May 27, 2009 8:28 pm

Harmony wrote:
Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ wrote:So then why would anyone do it?
Because the knowledge of knowing what the enemy is doing and their uttermost confusion is worth the difficulty of learning the matchups and besides, no-one here has enough skill to make the most of the other person's randomness and lack of practise at one specific race (as none of us play 12/7). Of course, i'm only saying that but there may be a few pros here.

so you're trying to give even ground between someone who practices more and someone who practices less?

If someone has practiced more, they have already developed a general sense and overall understanding of the game. They will none-the-less beat the other person. So, yes, i'm trying to balance the grounds to make the game more enjoyable, not ass-rape.
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Post  Harmony on Thu May 28, 2009 9:13 am

Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ wrote:
Harmony wrote:
Ð4£ §½îñ¥¢§ wrote:So then why would anyone do it?
Because the knowledge of knowing what the enemy is doing and their uttermost confusion is worth the difficulty of learning the matchups and besides, no-one here has enough skill to make the most of the other person's randomness and lack of practise at one specific race (as none of us play 12/7). Of course, i'm only saying that but there may be a few pros here.

so you're trying to give even ground between someone who practices more and someone who practices less?

If someone has practiced more, they have already developed a general sense and overall understanding of the game. They will none-the-less beat the other person. So, yes, i'm trying to balance the grounds to make the game more enjoyable, not ass-rape.

Then this argument is futile since we both have different objectives.
Just one last point, tournaments are meant to compare pure skill without any restrictions.

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Post  Admin-Sept. on Thu May 28, 2009 4:05 pm

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